/*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/, Agreed with all my nus pals - this quote ^ is golden - couldn't have put it any better =). 14. SMU dedicated the Gerald J. Ford Hall for Research and Innovation on December 4, 2020, a new 50,000-square-foot interdisciplinary research hub that will equip faculty, students and industry partners with tools and resources to collaborate, solve complex problems and power new enterprises in the digital world of today and tomorrow. I applied in February. Oooh we kinda overlooked the whole debate on AI. 13. A few people have messaged me on the thread and I thought this might be helpful so I just copy pasted stuff from the convo: SMU is rly convenient for me because i have a straight bus there. © Esᴛᴀʙʟɪsʜᴇᴅ MMXVII, Press J to jump to the feed. There’s only one class that teaches business and finance in NUS law. Southern Methodist University Dedman School Of Law Is The Most Famous Law School In The DFW Area. 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Menu. There’s a CNA article on this , not sure if the UK example was mentioned here too: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lawyers-law-sector-disrupted-technology-artificial-intelligence-11145088. 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Best to make your choice based on cultural fit. “I have all the works of Washington Irving, which were purchased by my great-grandfather when they came out in the mid-19th century.” 11. hey u might have more responses if u make another post about it instead of this comment section :). When borrowing money for living expenses, many students find that they can live on less than the estimated amounts below. I’m sure throughout ur life u also didn’t think every lecture u attended was important, so in this context, not every presentation/group work component will be ‘important’ or ‘useful’. Disclaimer: I have cleared this with the mods and this is not an advertisement. Really, go compare the course catalogs of both schools. 5. Plus I think people from SMULaw are definitely more articulate than NUS because they’re trained in presentations and class part :-) I did take the whole class participation thing in smu into consideration, but I do think that it does help to have a more engaged class that understands concepts as compared to one that just takes down notes and studies, especially in the context of law. 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But I think that really differs from cohort to cohort. Many lawyers (in the UK iirc) who focused only on/relied heavily on providing those services for survival were put out of their jobs. The people around me shaped my experience. These are my consolidated points for why SMU law is just as great of a sch as NUS! How did you know you were suited for Law School? How does grading work at Law school? What are your thoughts on NUS Law and SMU Law? News. Everything you said is pretty accurate. Is it true SMU focuses more on corporate law? 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NUS tends to have more variety. Hall isn't really a consideration because the majority of NUS law students (as far as I'm aware) just become ghosts. SMU has a compulsory conflicts of law mod. Thanks! If it’s useful, please upvote it as well. I am a 163 and a 3.76, SMU gave me $30k a year (the most they handed out in the initial scholarship according to what I could see on law school numbers). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Professor Joe McKnight, a faculty member since September 1955, in the Rare Law Book collection, which he donated to SMU Dedman School of Law in 2011. Ultimately, which school you choose doesn't really matter. What was your subject combination in JC? UH gave me $25k a year (with a tuition of $31k a year) and Baylor gave me a scholarship that will completely cover … What do you feel about the current oversupply of Lawyers as the Law Minister mentioned? so i don't think it's that huge of a difference to warrant such a clear divide between the two schools. ._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR._3axV0unm-cpsxoKWYwKh2x{fill:#ea0027} Incoming Student Scholarships. The rest have slowly become seminar-style teaching (whether it's because of the benefits of seminar-style, or simply disagreement between profs, we'll never know lol), some mods have project work; highly dependent on individual profs, presentations: again, highly independent on individual profs. many nus mods are changing to seminar style classes as well. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Wᴇʟᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ʀ/SGExᴀᴍs – the largest community on reddit discussing Singapore schools and examinations. NUS law seems to be doing better at mooting in recent years. Since 1928, alumni of SMU Dedman School of Law have distinguished themselves as global leaders in law, business, and government and as prominent members of the judiciary. If you feel like this isn’t helpful or anything, do flag it up and downvote it. SMU Law is pretty young. Is it true SMU focuses more on corporate law? 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The rest will be learnt on the job. On the downside, SMU can have quite a toxic/competitive culture, and there are many people who only care about others superficially and/or will only associate with those who can bring benefit to them. SMU Law ranks #37 in terms of library size with 666,576 volumes or equivalents. just wanted to know if it’s an unpopular move thank you! Does that affect its standing in terms of employability? 2. The School of Law at SMU was established in February 1925. An SMU degree is a pass to practice most anywhere in Texas. In fact, for some mods (eg legal research, which is itself a core double weightage mod [8 MCs]) it's 30% of the grade. NUS has a law + forensic science class and minor, NUS Electives: https://law.nus.edu.sg/student_matters/course_listing/courses_disp.asp?MT=LL&Sem=ALL&MGC=2._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} can't speak for smu, but there's this thing called the muggers in nus, which are notes passed down from seniors in the dean's list. A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Straits Times on March 11, 2020, with the headline 'Focus on tech and the law at new SMU centre'. #39 in Highest Tuition. 10. SMU Law graduates' pass rate on the July 2019 bar exam was 88.66% for first time takers. I know one who made individual presentations 35% of a double weightage core mod, and presentations began in week 2 (literally one week after you start learning the mod proper). Worth law. In other words, what you learn in class only sets the foundation for being a lawyer. What is the curriculum like? One of the reasons why people think it’s great is because it forces u to have higher involvement in ur school community + fosters interfaculty bonding, which happens in smu via the more exciting ccas! 4) Big law is going to be hard to get from either. SMU Dedman School of Law was established in 1925 and is located on the SMU Campus in Dallas, the state’s second-largest city. do your own solid research, talk to current students and most importantly, trust in your own gut. Some like them, some hate them. Wrt to oversupply of Lawyers- AI is also contributing to that by automating certain straightforward legal services (eg simple contract approval/vetting). 2nd law of refraction (aka Snell's law): for 2 given media, the ratio of the sine of the angle of incidence to the sine of the angle of refraction is a constant i also think the view that smu students are more well-spoken, more articulated, and more extroverted to be an exaggeration. The Scholarship Committee endeavors to use the available funds to attract students who will enhance SMU Dedman School of Law with their academic achievement and potential and … Video. My situation is that I got waitlisted and likely rejected at SMU with a 158 and 3.49 GPA (plus 5 years engineering work, if that matters application-wise since I am going patent law) for Fall 2018. Feel free to discuss in the comments if u have any concerns.. Look at the mods offered and see what interests you. How can you tell if you can cope with the rigour of the curriculum? I know you guys would have chosen your courses already but it'll be a good read on what SMU Law is like and what law school is all about. How would one know if he/she is really interested in Law? Founded in February 1925, the school was renamed Dedman School of Law in February 2001 in honor of its benefactors, the late Robert H. Dedman Sr., his wife Nancy McMillan Dedman, and their family. The Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan area is the fourth largest in the U.S. 5) If you want to do criminal law defense or family law, you will most likely not be working for a … 3. SMU’s Pro Bono Centre launched an online portal to provide the wider community with legal information related to the virus outbreak. i'm actually really confused where the whole "stereotype" that smu law students are more vocal while nus law students are more academic comes from. 2) Baylor has a reputation for making law school a miserable experience experience. The food in town is much cheaper+ better than nus law which is in bukit timah. I think hall life is super great but frankly unnecessary. this is simply to show that nus law students are a far cry from the usual generalisation that all we do is mug and grind in the CJ Koh library. both schools are excellent, and there is no reason to shun from either one just because you hear rumours of a school being too toxic and competitive, or a school being too mugger and no life. The SMU Dedman School of Law's student body is diverse, intelligent, and inquisitive. both unis have class participation, and both unis have seminars. A student may also borrow to pay tuition costs not covered by scholarships. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Wᴇʟᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ʀ/SGExᴀᴍs – the largest community on reddit discussing Singapore schools and examinations. If Paid, Salary is. I feel like there are no current smu law students on this thread LOL and this is just what I gathered after scouring the entire internet. You're unlikely to be different. 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But no matter the name, the purpose of getting … nus law students have won almost major moot competition it has entered into (competing with the likes of lse, kings college london, even oxford). .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{height:24px;vertical-align:middle;width:24px}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} ._3Im6OD67aKo33nql4FpSp_{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBorderColor);border-radius:5px 5px 4px 4px;overflow:visible;word-wrap:break-word;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);padding:12px}.lnK0-OzG7nLFydTWuXGcY{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;padding-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIcon)} We are delighted you are considering SMU Dedman School of Law for your legal education. 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